Clintonomics Revisited

As a supporter of Bill Clinton in the 1990's, I have stated many times to Bushies that I voted for Bill twice, and would vote for him again in a heartbeat. I also stated many times that I longed for the days that the worst thing the President lied about was a ____. That being said, if Bill ran today, I would likely vote for one of his opponents in the primary, but would give him my unconditional support in the general election. Why would I vote for the great communicator's opponent in the primary, even though he would likely smash any opponent the republic party would feed to him? The answer is simple; times have changed.

The decade of the1990's was a time that marked the beginning of the end of a period of a conservative wave in American politics. The general "I've got mine, screw everyone else" attitude of the Reagan/Bush years was still very much alive, "today's bottom line" corporate hacks like Jack Welch were lionized in the media, the inevitability of a world economy was almost universally accepted, and the idea that the private sector always did things more efficiently than government was widely accepted as common sense (obviously these were the pre-Halliburton days).

Bill Clinton, a social progressive who was economically moderate right was a perfect fit for the times. Admittedly, he did some great things, most notably welfare reform with child care. As a result, many people got out of the welfare cycle; at least until Bush II took away child care and made it impossible for many working single parents to make ends meet. On the negative side, free trade set us back 75 years. I am somewhat embarrassed to admit that I was one who was convinced that the only way to deal with the world economy was to capitulate and sign these worker hostile agreements (my weak defense is that, at the time, I was not aware of the worker-hostile provisions of these agreements, although I should have taken the time to look). I was wrong. Anyway, that was then, this is now. What we need now is a democrat that is less like Robert Rubin and more like Robert Reich.

This is the 00's and we are in the early stages of a progressive wave in American politics. Earlier in the decade, Bush II was barely able to hold on by fooling almost half of the people, and disenfranchising a small but critical number of voters; just enough to steal two elections. That won't work this time, and we should not vote in the primary as though republican lite is the only way to win. We must take advantage of social trends and elect a true progressive; one that the electorate is ready to elect.

Essentially, the DLC is not the voice of the Democratic Party, and we don't have to settle for their anointed candidate. Social mood is presently such that we need to nominate a candidate that is solidly for withdrawal from Iraq, solidly for fiscal responsibility and repeal of the Bush tax cuts for the rich, solidly pro-union, solidly for universal health care, solidly for alternative energy and decrease in greenhouse gas emissions, and solidly for fair trade, as opposed to free trade.

We need a candidate who values work over money. Why is money earned by work taxed at a higher rate than money earned by money? Capital gains are taxed at roughly half the rate of earned income, and further exempted from payroll taxes. Steve Forbes, Bill Gates, and Warren Buffet (I give Warren credit; he has been eager to admit it) are taxed at a lower overall rate than the average worker.

A candidate who clearly delineates the differences between the haves and the have-nots, rather than one who attempts to evade the very real class war in this country should get serious consideration by progressives. One relatively easy way to differentiate is to look at just who is financing the individual candidates. Beware the "progressive" whose candidacy is financed by the same corporate money that has supported Bush. Look for the candidate whose small donations exceed large donations. That candidate is most likely to represent the individual, as opposed to the elite.

It's time to use social trends to our advantage and elect a true progressive, one that will lead us to a generation of progressive dominance in American government.
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Re: Clintonomics Revisited (none / 0)

It was up and down.  I thought the 90s gave rise to the conservatives last big hurrah.  It took one of their own (bush) to destroy it.
I remember I stopped watching the news and paying attention due to being so tired of the whole mind games thing in the 90s.  Gotcha.
I finally just turned it all off.
by vwcat on Fri Apr 06, 2007 at 09:44:51 PM EST

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Edwards and Obama both get more money from small donors then large and are not taking lobbyist or PAC money.

No one in the race (With a chance) is a true economic populist. Obama and Edwards both support some free trade and oppose some. (Both support NAFTA, voted against CAFTA) markedly Edwards has been more of a economic populist then Obama and has been more populist on non-trade deals, I give him credit for that and wish  Obama would closer to that.

But Paul Wellstone was a economic populist. Russ Feingold is a economic populist. Webb is, Tester is, Sanders is, Brown is.

Why Carter/Reagan/Bush/Clinton/Bush? Why? You're "free trade" doesn't help anyone.


"Live your beliefs and you can turn the world around." --Thoreau
by Populista on Fri Apr 06, 2007 at 10:20:18 PM EST

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John Edwards says that NAFTA must be renegotiated.  He has opposed every free trade agreement since July of 2003.  He is in favor of trade, but with more restrictions than have been included in deals in the past, including caps on the carbon emissions of our trade partners.


"And so in the place of the palace of privilege, we seek to build a temple out of faith and hope and charity."-FDR
by jallen on Fri Apr 06, 2007 at 10:34:00 PM EST
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Good. I think any trade deal we make should be with labor, union, environmental etc stuff in it. SAFTA will go down because it doesn't have any of that I think.


"Live your beliefs and you can turn the world around." --Thoreau
by Populista on Sat Apr 07, 2007 at 11:59:31 AM EST
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Clinton economics didn't lift the poor all that much, I think we needed another Democratic term to fully help the poor or lower income folks. Because in 2000, their incomes were stable.


by olawakandi on Sat Apr 07, 2007 at 11:46:09 AM EST

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Your diary is a great attempt at revisionism.  There are some things to like about Clinton and I too voted for him twice.  But giving him credit for welfare reform is embarrassing revisionism.  The Republicans had taken control of congress in 1994 and all Clinton really did the rest of his presidency was play defense.

The Republicans sent him the welfare reform package TWICE and he vetoed it twice.  Then Dick Morris -- Clinton's pollster and trusted adviser -- told the Clintons just before the 1996 Dem convention that if he didn't sign the welfare reform package the Republicans had intentionally brought back up before the election that he very well might lose the election.  So Clinton signed the same bill he had vetoed twice (and claimed publicly he would never sign).  

Many Dems were infuriated.  I was at the convention and believe me when I say there was open anger and a cool reception for him among many.

Thinking back on the Clinton years it obviously was preferable to have him in the White House than a Republican but many of us with time forget about his progressive inconsistency and his complete lack of a personal moral barometer.  And some younger Dems seem to think the Clinton years were a time of tremendous popularity for Clinton similar to Reagan back in the 80's.  This is far from the truth, Clinton squeaked in more or less accidentally in 1992 with a whopping 43% of the vote (I'm sure Clinton thanks God for Ross Perot every night before going to sleep) and was reelected against a terrible Republican candidate (Dole) with another minority win with 49%.

Thankfully today we have a number of truly progressive candidates whose personal morals are solid and dependable (with the obvious excetion of smarmy trial lawyer Edwards).  I truly do not believe Bill or Hillary Clinton actually have core political beliefs.  I think they believe in whatever polls tell them to believe in and they just want to be in power.


by MaryGallan on Sat Apr 07, 2007 at 12:43:50 PM EST

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"(with the obvious excetion of smarmy trial lawyer Edwards)"

Totally unnecessary.


by adamterando on Sat Apr 07, 2007 at 11:10:54 PM EST
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BUT... accurate and true...


by MaryGallan on Sun Apr 08, 2007 at 03:31:48 PM EST
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Perot took evenly from both sides

http://www.fairvote.org/plurality/perot. htm

Based on this, the final total without Perot in 1992 would have been:

Clinton 53%
Bush 47%

However, I'll be charitable to Bush and go with:

Clinton 52%
Bush 48%

With regards to the electoral college, the best case for Bush without Perot would have been:

Clinton 281
Bush 257

And it would probably not have been that close.


by v2aggie2 on Mon Apr 09, 2007 at 12:29:34 AM EST
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Didn't you read the article you cite???  It says Bush would have won, silly.  Why make a claim and then cite an article that says the opposite of what you claim?

Either you are very young and just weren't there or you are just so engulfed in wishful thinking that you have deluded yourself.  Clinton's election in 1992 was a happy accident.  Perot was basically a conservative touting and espousing populist/conservative positions.  Not many normally Democratic voters voted for him.

Ross Perot made Clinton president and Carville and Begalla millionaires (which is interesting because they had nothing to do with Clinton's accidental win and had never won before and haven't since -- don't forget they were in charge of the Dem congressional campaign/disaster in 1994).

I understand that it makes you and some others feel better to pretend that Perot didn't make Clinton president, but he did.  Somewhere in the deep recesses of their homes Clinton, Carville and Begalla have pictures of Perot that they kiss every night...


by MaryGallan on Mon Apr 09, 2007 at 01:50:31 AM EST
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"It says Bush would have won, silly."

_____

Uh, no it didn't.
And I took the stats directly from the article.

I remember the 1992 election.
I remember that Bush was consistently below 50% approval, a sure sign of defeat.
I remember that Clinton was leading before Perot re-entered the race.
I remember that Bush was going to lose regardless of the competiton.

You have chosen to repeat a GOP talking point.
And you have no facts to back it up.


by v2aggie2 on Mon Apr 09, 2007 at 11:51:51 PM EST
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